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What's a Comparable Tonneau Cover to the BAKFlip MX4 for a GMC Sierra?

Sean: Hey. So I just got your email today. I was out after we spoke yesterday. You had a BAKFlip before. What kind of cover are you looking at? Are you looking at wanting to do a BAKFlip again or something comparable?

GMC Sierra Owner: I liked the BAKFlip. I just needed to fit. It seems like it's about a half inch too short. I've been working with James, and he's in the same email, and we tried a lot of different variables. I've tried to push it all the way up against the truck, like the directions call for, then it's a half an inch too short in the back. So I've got a gap that I could just about stick my pinky fingers through. If I try to split the difference and then it leaks on both hands and then I sit it the way it's supposed to at the tailgate. Then it doesn't have enough lip on the front and it's half inch too short up there so that leaks up there. So that's how we got to where we are.

Sean: Right. Let me see here. I think I sent an email about drilling some holes in the cover.

GMC Sierra Owner: I liked that actual style for it that flips. And that one holds like three or four hundred pounds distributed, and it doesn't fade because it's the poly stuff. I've read that the aluminum ones chip and then you can see the aluminum underneath. So that's the reason I was trying to get the poly or whatever you call it.

Sean: Did you get my email about drill some holes in it?

GMC Sierra Owner: Yeah, I figured that ... so they just want me to just randomly go through there and drill holes and then get rid of it and send pictures.

Sean: Yeah. Destroy the cover. 

GMC Sierra Owner: That seems unfortunate. 


Sean: I know man. I actually worked for Undercover, which is BAK's sister company. Just the whole process, getting them back, having people go through and make sure they're good, chances are they're going to be scratched. You know what I mean? It's just more work.

GMC Sierra Owner: I love the cover. I just don't want her to leak.

Sean: No, I know. Here's the tough part of the conversation here. So we tried the BAKFlip. You're set on that style I hear, because of the finish and because you feel it's going to be a better finish. I can't agree or disagree. I've never heard of the flaking problems that you're having and I worked for them, you know, so I, I've never seen that personally. It might be something new on the MX4. MX4 is kind of a new cover. I wasn't around the whole time during that.

GMC Sierra Owner: It's just what I've saw on the Internet.

Sean: Right, but what I was going to say is, I can get you the credit on this one as soon as you give me those field destroy pictures. And then what I'd honestly like to get you into is the Undercover Armor Flex. Unfortunately, it's a little bit more money. 

GMC Sierra Owner: Tell me about it. What's it's specs?

Sean: Okay, so what it is, it's going to be the same exact look as your BAKFlip. The only difference is, it's got a five-year warranty because it's got Linex on top of the cover. So the cover looks just like your BAKFlip, but it's got that Linex coating. So you could take a key to it and go back and forth on your cover, you're not going to scratch it. It's something new they started doing. Like I said, five-year warranty. It looks exactly the same. The only difference is whenever you fold it all the way up, it stands in the 90 degree angle instead of leaning against your cab. So it does tend to block that third brake light on some vehicles. I'm not sure if it will on the new Sierra, but that's the only difference between the Undercover and the BAKFlip product, are those three things. The warranty, the finish and the functionality.

GMC Sierra Owner: What causes it to not lean against the back window? Because that one comes just underneath it. I have a camera near the third light. It's a digital LED camera that's in there. That's how I see out my back window.

Sean: Right. Well here's a little bit of inside knowledge. So an Undercover historically made a one piece ABS Tonneau cover, okay? We obviously realize that industry is going towards the folding. So what did we do? We saw BAKFlip and we said, okay, we're going to start making that. So the leaning against the window is something that was either patented or something of that nature to where we couldn't do that. So that's why it stands at a 90 degree angle. It's held by prop rods, and they work flawlessly. Again, I don't know how often you drive with it all the way up, and they are really easy to remove if you know you're going to be driving with it all the way up, if that's going to be a a common occurrence for you.

GMC Sierra Owner: What stops it from leaning forward to try to hit the window if you break or take off?

Sean: Well, I mean they've got the prop rod on either sideand they're quick release prop rods, but they've got like a ball stud in the rail and then a ball stud on the cover itself.

GMC Sierra Owner: Okay. And it's still basically three folding pieces. And what's the weight that it holds?

Sean: The weight on that one I believe is going to be the same as BAKFlip. They don't actually mention it here on their website unfortunately, but I believe it is four to 500 pounds evenly distributed, of course.

GMC Sierra Owner: Okay. And it says that it fits my truck and install the same way without me having to drill holes in my truck?

Sean: Yes sir.

GMC Sierra Owner: Okay, well I'll give it a try.

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What's the Best Tonneau Cover for a 2019 Chevy 3/4 ton With 8 Foot Bed?

Chevy Owner: I have a 2019 Chevy 3/4 ton long box and I'm looking for a Tonneau cover for that.

Sean: I never get that 3/4 ton. Is that a 3500?

Chevy Owner: Yes that's a 3500.

Sean: Okay. Yeah I've been doing this for 10 years, and I still, I'm not a truck guy I guess. Only trucks I've ever had are 1500s Rams.

Chevy Owner: Yeah, this is a heavy duty 3/4 ton. Eight foot box, 2019.

Sean: You wanted the MX4, correct?? The BAKflip?

Chevy Owner: Um no, I was wondering what your recommendations were.

Sean: Oh okay. Well man, there's all sorts of options. What do you use your truck for?

Chevy Owner: For work and for play.

Sean: Okay. Do you have a fifth wheel or anything like that?

Chevy Owner: Nope no fifth wheel

Sean: Okay. Yeah man, it kinda depends on your style at that point and what you wanna spend. I think an MX4 would look really good on there. It's matte black and is flush, it's gonna sit flush to your bed rails.

Chevy Owner: And you'll lift it up from the front and open it? Or do you have to flip 'em all the way back?

Sean: You'll have to flip 'em all the way back.

Chevy Owner: I was just wondering if they make a cargo, you know that goes up front of that too?

Sean: They do. They make a BAK Box. Its called the BAK Box 2.

Chevy Owner: Any other options or covers you would recommend?

Sean: Other options than that? I mean that's gonna be the best option as far as the folding plush mount cover goes. If you wanted something that's gonna sit on top of the rails, you mentioned opening it from the front as well I would say Encore. Extang Encore. But it sits on top of the rails instead of in between.

Chevy Owner: I don't want that either, that would probably look bad. That flips too I take it?

Sean: Correct. Yeah it flips to the rear and it flips toward the glass and it flips towards the tailgate. But on that cover you can't travel with it open in any position, you can't travel with it open up against...it doesn't lean up against the cab, so you're still gonna, you're losing a little bit of bed there with that one. The other option that I was gonna suggest, and actually the best cover in my opinion as far as functionality and look goes, it's just a little pricey is the Retrax. I don't know if you have ever heard of them.

Chevy Owner: I have. Ok, I think you have given me some good suggestions. Let me do some more research on these covers and I'll call you back. 

Sean: Sounds good. 

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Are There Any Folding Tonneau Covers for a GMC Sierra That Are Water Resistant?

GMC Sierra Owner: I have a folding tonneau cover now. Do you recommend any other covers? I mean, mine leaks. The water doesn't bother me so much, but I'm just curious if there are any other folding covers that might be better and also easy to install.

Sean: Well, I just want to pre-warn you that I was actually with Undercover for a decade and they bought BAKFlip and a lot of tonneau cover companies that are actually owned by the same company, which Truck Hero. It's the name they're owned under, and folding covers are as far as water goes, the Achilles heel of the industry. We've done everything from different rivets, screws, seals, gluing, processes, everything. Unfortunately, on a folding cover, you're not able to keep 100% of the water out. Now, there are things in place with the drain tubes and the rails are channeled like a gutter, it's supposed to push the water to the drain tube and out the head if the rain tubes are installed properly. Which is going to unfortunately, require either some cutting if you have those little black plastic caps in the front of your bed, or some drilling if you don't, in order for those drain tubes to get out of the bed, so that's going to be the toughest part of the installation right there. The rest of it you're going to get two rails and eight clamps, you're going to have four clamps on the other side. Then the cover actually comes with elevator bolts and star knobs so essentially you sit the cover down on your bed, you go to the very front close to the window, put the elevator bolts through, and then from the underside you screw the star knobs on and your cover's installed, so that's as easy as it is. Well, I'm not very mechanically inclined and I've done about 50 of them, so.

 

GMC Sierra Owner: Well that means you know what you're doing.

Sean: Now I do.

GMC Sierra Owner: Do you recommend any other covers? I mean, the water doesn't bother me, mine when it's down, my bed is running water.

Sean: That's a little crazy there. As far as the look goes, the MX4 is going to be right there. If you didn't care about the low profile and sitting between your truck bed rails and you wanted something more that's going to sit on top of the rails, I would have you check out the Extang, and that's the Solid Fold. That one sits on top of the rails, but that allows less water intrusion, it folds the same way. It does not fold up against the back window. So you can't have the cover all the way open when you drive but you can have two panels open if you need to hold something tall. The good part about the Solid Fold is, it's cheaper, and it does not come with a separate rail system. At the front of the bed, at the very front panel toward the glass, you're going to have these two knobs that come down and it has a little lip on it, you loosen it enough so you can get that lip underneath your side rail, and then you clamp it shut. You do that on either side and that's how it secures it to the truck. When you fold it all the way down, the rear-end has sort of the same thing, except for those are spring-loaded, so you can tighten them wherever you need to. Let's say it's a little loose, so you just grab that handle, twist it, which will tighten it, and once it has that lip on there, and you clamp it over, it'll pull it down towards the bed.

GMC Sierra Owner: Oh, my goodness. So you have a little less water?

Sean: Correct. Anything that's going to sit on top of the rails, as a rule of thumb, you're going to have less water intrusion. Fewer opportunities for it to get in there.

GMC Sierra Owner: I'm still open to what you're saying. I'm just going to go transfer some money into my account and I'll call you back.

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How Can I Get the Best Price on a BAKFlip MX4 for a 2018 GMC Sierra 1500?

GMC Sierra Owner: I'm looking for a BAKFlip MX4 for a 2018 GMC Sierra Truck 1500, and it's a standard bed. So I'm assuming that's about the 6' 5” or 6' 6” bed.

Sean: I have one in stock where there's no shipping cost and then there's no tax outside of Arizona.

GMC Sierra Owner: Oh my goodness, wow. You know I'm going to get it. So I'm going to have to go transfer some money. That's the best price I've found on an MX4. Sierra Owner: How easy is it to install? Because I have a tonneau cover but it leaks.

Sean: They're pretty easy to put in. What kind of tonneau cover do you have, just out of curiosity?

GMC Sierra Owner: I would tell you but my truck is actually getting an oil change.

Sean: Is it a folding tonneau cover?

GMC Sierra Owner: Yes it is. And it leaks when I open up my truck bed, there's water already in there.

Sean: Yeah folding covers tend to do that unless you get the kind that sits on top of the rails. 

GMC Sierra Owner: Ok, well let's go ahead and get the MX4 then. 

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What's the Best Deal I Can Get on a BAKFlip MX4 for a 2019 Toyota Tacoma?

Toyota Owner: Last night I was on your website looking at tonneau covers, and then this morning I got an email about it from Peter, so I'm kinda calling you back cause we wanted to know if they could sell me a tonneau cover.

Sean: Alright, what kind of cover are you looking at, my friend?

Toyota Owner: Well, I picked up a 2019 Toyota Tacoma, and I was looking at the Bakflip the MX4.

Sean: Okay.

Toyota Owner: That seems to be a good cover, and seems like it's the one that Toyota sells with theirs.

Sean: What size bed do you have on that Tacoma?

Toyota Owner: It's the short bed, so a five foot bed.

Sean: Do you have the tie down? There should have been some sort of a disclaimer on there though, because unfortunately on those Tacomas with those tie down rails, you do get a second hardware kit with it, or a different hardware kit rather, which does make that cover a little bit more price wise, shouldn't be too much more, though, let me look real quick here. Looks like it's extra twenty bucks.

Toyota Owner: Okay. So, is that the best deal you'll give me on that cover?


Sean: That is the best deal I show. We're already coming down about forty bucks there from our normal sale price which is already a hundred and some dollars less than retail.

Toyota Owner: Oh, okay. Hmm, I was just kind of curious. I mean I called Toyota's repair shop, and they had quoted me about the same thing, but I was just trying to see what the difference was between what you offered and what they offered.

Sean: Right. If they've already quoted you and Peter's already quoted you, and that's a price that you feel comfortable paying, I would honor that quote if you want to place the order with me.

Toyota Owner: Okay. I could do that, and lemme ask you one other thing. And I notice you have the, you were asking about the financing thing, but is that just you take a credit card and you just take the payments out of it?

Sean: No, we work with a company called Klarna and you can get set up with them if you checkout online. I can send you a link that you can go right to there, once you go through the process of putting in your ship to address, and all that stuff it'll ask you how you want to pay, you select Klarna, and it'll take you that whole process.

Toyota Owner: Oh, Okay. Okay. So, do I need to call you back on that, or what do I need to do?

Sean: Nope, I can send it to you and then you're on your own from there, my friend.

Toyota Owner: Okay. All right, let's go ahead and do that.

Sean: Alright. I'm gonna send this over now. I'd say give it two minutes and you should have it.

Toyota Owner: Okay. Can I have it sent to a different address than the billing address, cause I'd rather have it sent to the shop here than my home.

Sean: Yeah, absolutely. It'll give you that option, as soon as you get that it'll give you an option to do shipping and billing address.

Toyota Owner: Okay, perfect thank you very much.

Sean: You're welcome. Thank you and once I see it come through I actually place all the orders myself so I'll place it with them.
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What Tonneau Cover is Going to Be The Most Water Resistant?

GMC Owner: Hey Shawn, I'm trying to reach Peter, I think. He's been giving me some emails about tonneau covers.

Shaun: Yes sir. Peter's actually out for the day though, what kind of tonneau cover was it?

GMC Owner: Well, I was needing to call and talk to somebody and start kind of figuring it out. It's kind of a new pickup truck and I want to get one for it.

Shaun: Beautiful. What kind of truck was it?

GMC Owner: 2019 GMC Sierra with a 5'8 bed.

Shaun: What are you looking for? You've got hard, soft, folding, rolling, one piece, three piece.

GMC Owner: It's my wife's truck. She likes the look of the hard folding or hard roll-up. She wants to be able to get in and out of it, so she wants the one that either folds, two or three times, four times. And she likes the look of the hard case, or the hard cover. She doesn't like the leather top of the soft one.

Shaun: Right.

GMC Owner: Waterproof, basically, because once we get this thing on it, it's going to be stuck in the back of that truck pretty much, there's going to be something back there all the time. So, you know, number one thing is waterproof, two is security, for me, then three is, you know, the appearance. So that's what I was going to start with whenever I got a hold of you know, someone to talk to. To see what's out there, see what y'all thought. What are some good options?

Shaun: Well let me tell you, the folding, hard folding that are going to sit flush to your bed, those have rails that mount on the inside, so chances of water getting in those are a little bit higher than if you were to buy one that mounts on top of the rails. That look isn't always desired, but honestly, they do look pretty sharp, usually. The Extangs as in the Solid Fold 2.0, or if you get the Encore, it's basically the same thing, are good. Except the Encore folds from the front or the back so that's a nice little feature there. The downfall to that is unlike a BAKFlip, or unlike a three-piece that's going to sit between your rails, you can't fold it all the way up to where it's against your window, and drive with it all the way open, and I don't know how often she would do that anyway.

GMC Owner: Okay. Are there any other covers that you would suggest?

Shaun: The other one that I would suggest is the Retrax One MX. And that is the roll-in cover. It's got a self-containing canister that sits at the front behind the bolt. It's about 14 inches wide by 14 inches deep by the top of your rails. So you're going to lose about a foot of med space with that. That one is going to be the easiest to use. The best looking one in my opinion is also going to provide the best watertight seal out of all of them, besides, you know, like I said the folding ones that sit on top of the rails usually do a pretty good job.

GMC Owner: Gotcha. Alright. I'm going to have to get with her and find out for sure just exactly if she's okay with that look. But one of them I got was with a 4 maybe? Or something like that?

Shaun: Yeah the MX4.

GMC Owner: Yeah that was one. I thought it looks pretty good, folds up three or four times.

Shaun: They are sharp, man. I worked for Undercover which to be honest with you, all the companies we're talking about are owned by the same people. But I worked for Undercover for almost a decade and then after they bought BAKFlip, I worked for BAKFlip for a few years. But when you said water, that's when my mind went to a folding cover. Let's say there's twenty parts where water could get in, versus a cover that's on top of the rails or that rolls where there's three spots. So that's my only reservation when it comes to that, but other than that I'd say buy that folding cover all day long; the BAKFlip, because it's a great cover.

GMC Owner: Gotcha. But in general the best water resistance is to have a cover sitting on top of the rails?

Shaun: Correct.

GMC Owner: Are there any covers- and those are hard covers, right? It won't be the leather soft, okay?

Shaun: No you won't have that. Because after a while man, when they wear out, they're a pain to buckle and all that.

GMC Owner: Okay. Well, let me get home and talk to her. Can you email me some quotes?

Shaun: Okay. What I'm going to do is I'm going to go ahead and outline it a little bit here, prices next to each of them and I'll also send a link so you can click it and go straight to both of them. Just give me a call back if you have any questions. 

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